{"id":6353,"date":"2025-08-26T07:02:34","date_gmt":"2025-08-26T07:02:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/26\/2508-17018\/"},"modified":"2025-08-26T07:02:34","modified_gmt":"2025-08-26T07:02:34","slug":"2508-17018","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/26\/2508-17018\/","title":{"rendered":"Limitations of refinement methods for weak to strong generalization"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>    Limitations of refinement methods for weak to strong generalization<br \/>\n \t<BR><br \/>\n<BR><\/BR><br \/>\n    <!-- no image --><br \/>\n \t<BR><br \/>\n<BR><\/BR><\/p>\n<div>arXiv:2508.17018v1 Announce Type: new<br \/>\nAbstract: Standard techniques for aligning large language models (LLMs) utilize human-produced data, which could limit the capability of any aligned LLM to human level. Label refinement and weak training have emerged as promising strategies to address this superalignment problem. In this work, we adopt probabilistic assumptions commonly used to study label refinement and analyze whether refinement can be outperformed by alternative approaches, including computationally intractable oracle methods. We show that both weak training and label refinement suffer from irreducible error, leaving a performance gap between label refinement and the oracle. These results motivate future research into developing alternative methods for weak to strong generalization that synthesize the practicality of label refinement or weak training and the optimality of the oracle procedure.<\/div>\n<p> \t<BR><br \/>\n <BR><\/BR><br \/>\n    Seamus Somerstep, Ya&#8217;acov Ritov, Mikhail Yurochkin, Subha Maity, Yuekai Sun<br \/>\n \t<BR><br \/>\n<BR><\/BR><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2508.17018\">Go to original source<\/a><br \/>\n \t<BR><br \/>\n <BR><\/BR><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Limitations of refinement methods for weak to strong generalization arXiv:2508.17018v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Standard techniques for aligning large language models (LLMs) utilize human-produced data, which could limit the capability of any aligned LLM to human level. Label refinement and weak training have emerged as promising strategies to address this superalignment problem. In this work, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[62,113,112],"tags":[828,3599,3316],"class_list":["post-6353","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aimldsaimlds","category-cs-lg","category-stat-ml","tag-label","tag-refinement","tag-weak"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6353"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6353"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6353\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6353"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6353"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mailitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6353"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}